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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
6.5 聚焦于东西方文化的交融和隔阂，有一些细微的特色捕捉（如清明节的多次提及），可惜根本的冲突薄弱，父权在亚裔身份上的阴魂不散只体现于台词，理想化的故事呈现使《尚气》变成了又一部漫威式过家家，但抛开这些问题对依旧是愉快的，对于动作戏编排的强调和无数老面孔的亮相彰显着对于香港电影的追忆和传承，配乐和太极的结合居然带来了几分禅意，显然比当下各种生搬硬套的商业片要真诚太多。
亚裔版《黑豹》，中文再多，毕竟还是拍给美国人看的，属于文化猎奇动作片。主角其实是梁朝伟，人物背景充实性格鲜明，尚气的存在感还不如奥卡菲娜。
万万没想到有一天阿伟会说出我吃的盐比你吃的米还多这句台词
最后是中国龙打败西方龙，挺政治正确的。
武打动作硬，视效奇观爽，情感内核也不拉胯，东方文化的运用不能说炉火纯青但也炖出了一番味道。漫威亚裔英雄值得一个更高的分数。
20211112。比预想中好，还蛮喜欢这个以柔克刚的精神内核，但是后复联时代的漫威再难重现辉煌。
不能说难看，只能说毫无新意——西方可真爱弑父这个题材；倒是动作场面的确不错，整部电影与其说是拍给我们看的，不如说是拍给游离于双重文化的abc——从这个角度来看，就有意思多了。当然，最离谱的肯定是杨紫琼对着刘思慕说你长得真像陈法拉。P.S.女性几乎承担了片子一大半的功能性角色。
2.5 聚能环换代史，其实没想象中那么差劲，但属实看困了。套路太过强，人也没当人来写。梁朝伟打不过尚气就离谱。
陈法拉和梁朝伟生出刘思慕就一个不符合生物学定律，谢谢。打架为什么全村穿得集体结婚似的？仿佛一下在看金庸一下在看三强争霸赛。梁朝伟简直是漫威不那么讨厌版碇源堂。其他的凑凑合合看得比较欢乐不弱智吧～
看完了，双彩蛋。这部真是老美拍的非常尊重兔子文化的了，那普通话就不说了，大段加eng sub，还有服装，动物，习俗，真的是下功夫研究了，看看这比mulan，mulan是真的一无是处。anyway，这部剧情真的带孝子，挺好猜的，说cliche也可以。这尚气说白了就是软弱，被教育血债血偿，他认可了，但是他不找暴徒报仇反而一句我杀老爸，我...逻辑感人。我反而很认同wenwu，这给我杀了这些gzz!!!另外就是打戏真的可以，几个打斗场景绝对请人指导不是糊弄了。相比前段时间的黑寡妇，还有d+剧，这诚意满满
80！80！特效可以；3分负面5分正面2分中立
迪士尼真的很懂如何拍好中国式的玄幻武侠，虽然在这之下套的仍然是个美漫超级英雄的老套故事，但是从打戏到音乐到特效看得真的是非常过瘾了。不过也真的很想问，陈法拉和梁朝伟这俩大双眼皮是怎么生出来刘思暮这个小眼睛单眼皮的？ @2021-11-12 21:15:39
各位漫威姐妹可以放心食用！
做中国观众已经很难了，希望这次至少让我看完再说。
後面半小時整個睡過去再次確定我不是漫威的受眾，也不是一切超級英雄片的受眾⋯⋯倒過來看完之後只覺得打來打去真的好吵⋯⋯ P.S 我全程都在 OS「也 太 像」
中国文化融入西方语境/价值观做到了合理性，挺难得。情节相对简单粗暴，某些时刻会觉得太赶，稍作呼吸会更好。动作方面，上半段更像成龙杂耍式功夫片，下半段受武侠片和怪力乱神挂的影响明显，应该蛮戳老外的猎奇心理和奇观性。十环就是洪家铁线拳的升级版，酷炫拉风。主人公成长的关键因素有所缺失，而梁朝伟成为电影的驱动力，若隐若现的存在，威严与人性贯穿始终，的确是漫威为数不多的有血肉的反派形象。
作為算中華文化的一分子，这样把什么都混搭真的好吗……好在梁生在哇，奥菲小姐在……
原本因为男主不想看的，经不住好评太多还是来看了。如果不是抱着太较真或者挑刺的心态，我觉得总体还不错，前半段真的拍的很好，可惜后面逻辑略崩，所有的CG也太新太假了；最后还是要为男主扣一星，真的只是路人脸，好不容易电影整体水准在线，为什么华裔英雄就不能有个好看一点的？！
腊鸡辱华片还有6.1？？打1⭐以上都都是没麻麻的吗？
女主可爱，九尾狐可爱，片尾曲可爱，剧情本身勉强算漫威及格线水平，从头到尾有种大家一起冷漠脸走流程的感觉，哦该打架了，哦该回忆了，哦邪神该出来了，哦老爹该便当了……文化元素方面尚可（开场那个尴尬的功夫熊猫风布景除外），不要当成中国文化，当成唐人街文化观看比较好。
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